A conversation between three women that doesn't sugarcoat the issues.
If you want something sweet and fluffy, this mightn't be for you :-)
Di Landy of Mana Wāhine Kōreo (Sovereign Women Speak) and I talk with Kelly Dougall in the UK, who kindly got up at sparrow-fart her time to accommodate Di and I with a more civilised New Zealand hour.
Our conversation runs the gamut between honest, raw, brutal, and funny. It ranges from the gunk of trans/gender ideology, the immigration controversy, to abortion and euthanasia. We didn’t all agree with everything each other had to say, but we allowed it to be said, and didn’t need to retreat to a safe space afterwards to nurse our trauma.
Polite and measured conversations have their place, no doubt about that, but sometimes it’s also good to just say it like we see it. This is one of those conversations.
The State of Women's Rights in New Zealand: Kelly talks to Katrina Biggs and Di Landy
