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Yvonne van Dongen's avatar

I hope you’re right Katrina about the Green Party being in free fall. They should be but I’m beginning to think their supporters are bolted on. There’s still a year to go until the election and they may still retrieve their position with climate alarmism and intersectional victimhood. IMO they’re the party of the mentally unwell.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

Yes, absolutely true that the Greens supporters seem to be bolted onto the party. Although I know this to be true, it may be because their supporters have nowhere else to go. I wonder what would happen if some of them started up a new Green party - something like the Enviro Greens, perhaps - and if the Greens in their current format would survive it? If they don’t go back to the environment soon, they might get robbed of that.

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Till Sex Do Us Part's avatar

They're drunk on their youth and power. The more I think about it, the less I think under-35s have a place in parliament where life experience is probably the main useful qualification. But Starmer and the international wokerati are pushing for 16 year-olds to get the vote.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

I would even go so far to say as under 40’s shouldn’t be MPs.

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Till Sex Do Us Part's avatar

Yes, quite possibly that would be even better, though I think the young might have a stronger case against 40 than 35.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

You may be right - 35 would seem way less ancient than 40 - lol!

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Chuck Bird's avatar

Sorry, Karrina, I disagree. Minister Brown is 34 now. He was in his mid 20s when he became an MP.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

Damn - proved wrong in five minutes flat - lol! And I expect there'll more examples of such maturity at a young age, if we dig a little further. Still, I mightn't give it up as a broadly-held opinion just yet :-)

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Graham Adams's avatar

And David Seymour turned down ministerial posts offered by John Key in 2015 (Minister for Regulatory Reform and Associate Minister of Education) when he was 32 because he wanted to boost support for Act as well as leaving him free to champion the End of Life Choice Act if it was drawn from the biscuit tin — something he couldn't do if he was a minister.

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Till Sex Do Us Part's avatar

I think it's a good and fair for all that would eliminate more bad (immature) conenders than good ones.

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Yvonne van Dongen's avatar

I’ve been thinking along those lines too. At first I was alarmed at the rise of the gerontocracy but then I see someone like Winston peters who turned 80 yesterday and it gives me pause for thought. If we’re lucky age brings wisdom.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

I never thought I’d say it, but isn’t he inspirational. Maybe we other oldsters will step up again, too, once we see that leaving the kids in charge wasn’t actually the best idea we ever had - lol! But, gosh, the wisdom we get post 60 is almost like seeing things clearly for the first time ever.

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Yvonne van Dongen's avatar

Yup, it’s the strangest feeling. Clearly not shared by everyone our age but I wouldn’t trade it for my former blind state. Anyway I agree - 16 is way too young to vote. Since the frontal cortex isn’t fully developed until you’re in your mid 20s, there’s a better argument for raising the voting age.

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Till Sex Do Us Part's avatar

'... parading around... in his non-binary finery'. Love this. 😁 These people wouldn't know what it was like to be actually subjected to hate if they tripped over it. He's a paedophile apologist and a liar, saying the 'bussy (boy pussy) galore' comment was referring to himself, for a picture of himself with a young boy sitting on his lap. He's so arrogant he didn't even take it down when the laughably liberal Greens asked him to. He is proud of his paedophilia. He must go. No good can come from him having any political power or influence.

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Ross's avatar

One of the glories of the English language is its incredible vocabulary that offers an immense range of similar words that have quite distinctly different connotations…

For instance, I do not hate bussy boy, I loath him.

If while walking in the park I inadvertently trod on some post digested dog food and it stuck on my shoe I would be disgusted. I would scrape it off with a twig, but I wouldn’t hate it. To hate it would be to fear it. I do not fear doggie doos, I just prefer to avoid it.

In fact I loath it.

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Till Sex Do Us Part's avatar

I neither hate nor loath him, at least not before any actual physical crimes of his are revealed, something that would not surprise me at this point. But for now I simply reject his misogynist and dangerous to children not least ideology, as well as his perpetual victimhood and virtue signalling about race and 'queer' rights when he is a man married to a woman.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

I think I despise him right now, but perhaps not hate him yet, either.

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Robin's avatar

Chloe does herself and her party no favours by claiming that us boring old cishets couldn't possibly understand all their "context" that somehow magically transforms queer terms into innocence, when they are anything but. I know that sometimes an aubergine is just an eggplant but don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. Doyle's problem is not that he is being misunderstood, but that he has been unveiled for what he really is and I for one resent having to pay his salary for bringing his "full self" to work.

Frankly, the Greens lost my vote when it became apparent that they had abandoned the environment for promoting those who create the most enormous climate footprint life on the planet, which is trans. I now have to buy my kitchen bin bags (none of my supermarket bags were ever single use), but some delusional person is encouraged to embark on the life of permanent medical patient forever? All those single use plastics and importing of drugs is not an environmental winner.

At least finally, one journalist is doing his job at last: https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/from-salmon-to-shoplifting-the-greens-on-both-sides-of-the-tasman-are-so-ridden-with-identity-politics-they-have-forgotten-what-they-were-fighting-for-in-the-first-place/news-story/efeca7ff3db5e86dbf831ed31b15bfaa

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

I was a bolted-on Green Party voter once, and it was terfing that ripped the scales from my eyes.

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Lola Coco Petrovski's avatar

Oohhh....you made that comment at 11:11

😄

I interpret this as, you were in the right place at the right time doing the right thing. And you do it so well!

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

Haha - good spotting, and thank you 😄

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Hilary Taylor's avatar

Covid did it for a mate of mine...rather, the mandates. Previously they'd assumed benign 'greenie' intentions & something about trees.

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Limosa's avatar

There is something about the greens and pedophilia. Here in Germany this party in the 90th had put homeless kids in the care of paedophiles because they would be " loving " them so much.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

Insane!

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Limosa's avatar

Dear Katrina, I hope you don't mind us Terfs in Germany using the warning letter to personnel involved in the greatest medical scandal of all times intending to organize something similar. Anyway, we are grateful for you publishing it.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

Feel free to use it - if it helps you, too, that’s good :-)

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

I mentioned your intention to use the letter to the person who drove this campaign here in NZ, and he’s interested in hearing any updates about your campaign in Germany which involves using the letter. If you don’t mind doing that, I’d also be very interested. Even a brief update would be great 🙂

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Limosa's avatar

Of course I will send an update about our intentions here in Germany . It will take time. Raising money for paying a lawyer etc. It is very important to know what strategies we can apply to fight that madness. No matter where about in this world.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

Thanks. Yes, the lawyers fees are usually fairly hefty. All the best, anyway :-)

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KenInNZ's avatar

Thanks Katrina. Do you think the pole dancer (who I understand is the next on their list) is warming up?

I have to admit being surprised on browsing an eMail from the Green Party to read something about the environment was included.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

I think there's one before her - a bloke.

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Hilary Taylor's avatar

Davidson perhaps...

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Sarah Henderson's avatar

I wonder about that too, a different environmental party starting up. I'm genuinely sad and angry that the Greens turned out to not gaf about biology. That's how I think of 'the environment'; as the biosphere, and everything living in it including us. It's endlessly fascinating, incomparably beautiful, overflowing with untapped potential and undiscovered insights. There are all kinds of ideas for how to live productively and well without sacrificing the long-term health of local or global systems and biomes. One of the things NZ First is doing very well imo is pushing to reinvigorate our wool industry. If we can decrease our reliance on dairy, the flow-on effect will be fantastic news for rivers and lakes all over nz, as well as shearing and production and hillside degradation. Sheep are vastly more suited to our landscape. Nothing to do with climate, or identity, just a sensible, sustainable industry that benefits people, place and economy, like the Green goal is supposed to do.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

As you might suspect, animal farming leaves me cold. However, I’ve grown up enough to be more pragmatic now, and realise we’ll never not have it, so it’s a matter of which one is the best practice that will do the least harm whilst providing the most benefits. Even on an animal welfare level, dairy farming is way more hideous for the cows, than sheep farming is for sheep.

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Sarah Henderson's avatar

❤️ Exactly... I feel like these are areas where progress not perfection is a good mantra... The future is unwritten, so it surely needs workable foundations we can all live with to start with.

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Lola Coco Petrovski's avatar

Winston Peters is impressive....80 years old and running rings around the Greens and the media.

Can't wait for the Netflix series on all this garbage.

(Reading from Australia....never heard of these people until now)

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

We all have our political dramas, eh? I probably hear a bit more about what’s going on in your neck of the woods, than vice versa, as I follow a few Aussie sheilas on X 😀

Yes, Winston Peters is something else, all right. I couldn’t believe it when I heard he was making a comeback, and look at him!

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Hilary Taylor's avatar

I thought he'd run out of puff at the end of Ardern's reign...but no. I think the smell of new horizons & fights perked him up.

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Lola Coco Petrovski's avatar

Yes. And we've got to go to the polls in a few weeks 🤷‍♂️

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ANNA's avatar

Hi there, I agree with much on this Substack and am a proud terf but need to point something out.

I have studied Alice Bailey's work in depth and the tweet quoted above is simply untrue:

"...At the core of Bailey’s teachings were to remove parental control over their children, especially what they were taught, and promotion of ‘any type of sexual relationship including incest and bestiality as well as relations with minors’"

Alice Bailey taught nothing of the sort. This is factually untrue.

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

Thanks for pointing that out. I shall make a note to say that it's been said to not be correct, even though I realise it's a bit late in the day.

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Dusty Masterson's avatar

Another great piece on this creep, Katrina

Have cross posted.

https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/brokeback-mountain

Surely he has to go!!!!!!!

Dusty

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Katrina Biggs's avatar

We live in hope, Dusty.

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Wendy Cockcroft's avatar

@malcolmrichardclark

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